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My New Client Talks To 25 People To Set 1 Appointment. I Talk To 7 People And Set 2. Here’s What He’s About To Master That’ll Change His Whole Year.

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Let me tell you what I watch agents do.

You wake up. You decide today’s the day. You’re going to make 5 sales this month.

So you sit down with your laptop and you start hustling. You post on Instagram. You cold call for an hour. You message your sphere. You sign up for an open house this weekend. You think about doing a seminar. You write a buyer guide.

By Friday you’re tired and you’ve got nothing.

You know why?

Because you skipped to step 5 of a 5-step process and got mad when it didn’t work.

Real Estate Is Two Things. That’s It.

Conversations. And relationships.

If you build the right relationships and have the right conversations inside them, you win. Period.

But you can’t have a conversation if you haven’t decided who you’re talking to or how you’re getting in front of them. Which is why before we talk about anything else, you need to pick your lead generation. One thing. Or two. Three at the absolute most.

Open houses. Cold calling. Seminars. Door knocking. Database. Whatever your three are, pick them and stop touching anything else.

Listen — when you came from your corporate job, that job handed you a job description. They didn’t say “do everything you can think of.” They said “do these things, get good, get promoted.” We don’t do that for ourselves in real estate. We hustle. And hustling just means doing whatever feels natural that morning.

Purposeful is different. Purposeful is sitting down, laying out a plan, picking a target, and aiming every activity at that target.

So before you read another word, pick your three. Map them out. Every four weeks, look at the numbers and adjust.

Now we can actually talk.

The 5 Dominoes

Here’s what you should be tracking. Write these down.

→ Conversations

→ Appointments set

→ Appointments kept

→ Contracts signed

→ Closings

That’s the whole map. Five numbers. And I want you to picture them as dominoes standing in a row.

If you knock over domino 1, it knocks over 2. Two knocks over 3. Three over 4. Four over 5.

You don’t push domino 5 over by walking up to it and shoving it. You push it over by knocking down domino 1 hard enough that the chain reaction does the work.

But what do most agents do?

They walk in on January 1st and say “I need 5 closings this month.” They go straight to domino 5. They shove it. Nothing happens. They get frustrated. They blame the market.

Sis. Brother. You skipped four dominoes.

Why Success Is Sequential, Not Simultaneous

You cannot master all five of these at the same time.

Children don’t start school in the fifth grade. They start in kindergarten. They graduate. They go to first. They graduate. They go to second. Eventually they end up in fifth.

You will eventually end up at closings. If you master the first step.

Dr. King said you don’t need to see the whole staircase. You just need to see the next step. That’s how I want you to think about your business. One step. The one you’re standing on.

And here’s the spiritual piece, because my coaching is built on biblical principle. The Bible says in Genesis — as long as the earth remains, seed time and harvest will not cease. That’s a law. It’s not changing. You don’t get to short-step it.

Every time you try? You have to come back to where you left off.

So let’s walk these dominoes the way they’re supposed to be walked.

Domino 1: Conversations

I had a client. Real one. Last month we were going through his tracker on a coaching call.

His ratio was 25 to 1.

Twenty-five conversations to set one appointment.

So I told him — if you want to set 2 appointments, that’s 50 conversations. Three appointments, 75. Four appointments, 100 people you need to talk to.

Now me? I talk to 7 people and I set 2 appointments.

Not because I’m magic. Not because I’m special. Because I’ve been doing this 11 years and I’ve put in time on task. My skillset shrunk that ratio.

Here’s why this matters: my client wasn’t bad. His number wasn’t shameful. It was data. Once he knew the number, he knew exactly how many conversations he had to have this week to hit his goal. That number stopped being scary and started being a plan.

If you’re a new agent, this is your only domino. You don’t focus on contracts. You don’t focus on closings. You focus on how many people you can talk to and have a real estate or relationship-building conversation with.

You practice scripts. You practice listening. You practice the words. Until 25-to-1 becomes 20-to-1. Then 15-to-1. Then 7-to-1.

Domino 2: Appointments Set

People only buy houses when life moves them to buy houses.

That’s the whole game.

So when you’re having all those conversations from domino 1, your job isn’t to pitch real estate. Your job is to listen for the life trigger.

New baby coming? They need more space.

Kids just left for college? They’ve got too much space.

New job out of state? They’re relocating.

Divorce? Two households now instead of one.

Aging parent moving in? They need a different setup.

When you hear the trigger, that’s when the conversation pivots into a real estate conversation. That’s when the appointment gets set. Not before.

You can’t set an appointment without a trigger. You can’t catch a trigger without a conversation. You see how this chains?

Domino 3: Appointments Kept

This is where so many agents leak money and don’t even know it.

You set the appointment. You’re celebrating. And then it cancels. Or you drive 45 minutes to a coffee shop, sit down, and realize they’re “just looking” and not buying till maybe next summer.

That’s not bad luck. That’s missing a system.

The fix is a pre-qualification call 24 hours before every appointment, run through the MAT framework.

M — Motivation. What’s actually moving them to buy or sell?

A — Ability. Do they have the credit, the down payment, the resources?

T — Timeline. Are they trying to do this in the next 30, 60, or 90 days? Or is this a “someday” conversation?

The call itself sounds like this. “Hey, just confirming we’re meeting tomorrow at 3. Want to make sure you’re still looking to move in the next 30 to 60 days because of the relocation, right?”

You’re repeating their own motivation, ability, and timeline back to them. You’re getting in front of every objection before it walks into the appointment.

That’s how appointments get kept.

Quick pause, because this domino is where I lose people.

This system I just walked you through — the 24-hour pre-qual, the MAT call, the way I prepare to win the listing before I ever sit down at the table — this isn’t even my best stuff. It’s the entry-level system. The one I’m willing to give away in a blog.

On May 26th from 6 to 7 PM I’m running The Path to Leverage & Profit Masterclass, for FREE.

I’m walking you through why systems are the actual difference between an agent who hustles forever and an agent who builds an empire — plus the top 3 systems you need in place right now if you want closings to start showing up consistently.

The kind of systems that make your business work while you sleep. After the class, agents who want me to help them build this out for their specific business get the chance to join the Unstoppable Cohort, where we go deep on weekly training and weekly coaching calls.

Grab your seat. Then come back and finish the rest of this with me.

Domino 4: Contracts Signed

Okay. You kept the appointment. Now your only job is the contract.

But here’s what I want to land in your chest.

Winning a listing appointment and getting a contract signed is a completely different skillset than setting the appointment. Which is a completely different skillset than having the conversation in the first place.

My clients don’t walk into appointments cold. We prepare to win the listing before we ever get there. So when we sit down with a seller, we’re not pitching them. We’re doing the paperwork.

That prep is its own system. The pre-consultation packet. The video you send 48 hours ahead. The questions on the qualification call. The materials you bring. The order you present them. The scripts for getting people to sign.

If you’ve never built that layer, you’re walking into listing appointments raw. Hoping you’re charming enough that day. Sometimes you are. Mostly you’re not.

Domino 5: Closings

Contract is signed.

Now run the transaction. Coordinate with the lender, the attorney, the inspector, the other agent, the title company. Keep your client calm. Solve problems before they grow.

This is a whole skillset too. Transaction management.

But notice — closings is fifth. Not first. Not third. Fifth.

If you’ve mastered the first four dominoes, you arrive here naturally. If you tried to skip straight here? You’re not arriving at all.

The Two Rabbits Problem

Here’s what I see agents doing wrong, every single day.

You’re chasing two rabbits. One goes left. One goes right. You take three steps after the left rabbit. Then you panic. You turn around. You chase the one on the right. Now you’re behind on both.

That’s most agents’ careers in one image.

You start lead generating with open houses. It’s slow. You switch to cold calling. That’s hard. You jump to social media. That doesn’t convert. You try seminars. They cost money. So you go back to open houses, except now you’ve lost three months and you’re starting from zero again.

Pick one to three. Stick.

And inside whatever you pick, focus on the domino you’re actually standing on. Not the one five steps ahead.

You can only focus on one thing. If you try to focus on two, you move further away from both.

I Didn’t Master This Until Year 6

I want you to hear that.

Year six. Of 10 or 11 years in this business.

And I was okay with that. Because in Matthew chapter 4, when the enemy came to Jesus and said “if you’re the Son of God, turn these stones into bread,” what he was really saying was — skip the process. You don’t have to go through this.

Jesus had to go through the full thing. He had to die. The temptation was to bypass it.

That same temptation comes to every agent. Skip the process. Find the shortcut. Buy the leads. Hire the assistant before you have the systems. Chase the contract before you’ve had the conversation. Brand yourself before you’ve made a sale.

My programs are a year long for a reason. I need you to become somebody different inside that year. Because as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. You can’t think like an agent who skips dominoes and end up with the business of an agent who built them properly.

So many of you are trying to work your way into success. I hate that for you.

You need to work, absolutely. But you need to work strategically. And you need to know what the process actually looks like before you start sprinting through it.

That’s why I built How to Start & Structure Your Real Estate Business — my self-paced course that walks you through the foundation underneath all five dominoes. The CEO mindset. The activity plan. The financial metrics. Sales systems and funnels. Lead generation tactics. Pre-consultation prep. Transaction management.

Everything I just spent this blog talking around. If you’re tired of guessing what step you’re supposed to be on, this is the course that hands you the staircase.

Your Job This Week

Pick your domino.

Not the one you wish you were on. The one you’re actually standing on.

If you’re not having enough conversations, that’s where you live. Stop worrying about contracts.

If conversations are flowing but appointments aren’t setting, you need to listen harder for life triggers. That’s your domino.

If appointments are setting but not keeping, you need the MAT call. That’s your domino.

Master the one you’re on. Let it graduate you to the next one.

Because here’s what I know for sure — the process pushes you into the promise. That’s how it works. That’s how it’s always worked. And it’s working for you the second you stop trying to skip it.

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